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		<title>Умер Глеб Подмошенский</title>
		<description>Обсуждение Умер Глеб Подмошенский</description>
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			<title>But, We should not make 'saints' out of sinners!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Gleb Podmoshensky was a remarkable man. He had an energetic charism, and vitality and bright intelligence and many talents. Everyone who met him, loved him instantly. He loved to be around people. He saw himself as a persecuted elder, like those of the Northern Russian monastic tradition.[ the so-called, 'Non-possessors '] He believed that all bishops, always persecuted righteous elders.[ as with Vladyka John Maksimovich... and himself too] He did not trust or like bishops, except Archbishop John Maksimovich.. In his life, he accomplished many things, some good, some bad. But, he made schism, he presented himself as a wise spiritual staretz, he gathered many around him, in a personality cult, especially here in America, with young people, both naeve converts and grand-children of Russian emigrants and others. He mislead many, into harmful ways. He made his own personal war on our church and set himself up, as his own church. He created a cult around himself, as do many schismatics and heretics of all past ages. Many of these confused people still think of him as a saint. I predict that soon they will paint icons of him! and pray TO HIM. Therefore, now at his passing from this world, we should indeed remember his good deeds, PRAY FOR HIS SOUL, but because of the tremendous evil that he also did, we dare not overly praise him, or elevate him as some sort of prophet-saint.. HE WAS NOT A SAINT! However, many will see him as a saint. That is why I give my testimony about him. And those, as myself, who speak the truth about him, we are vilified and made to seem as liars. Long ago, making an oath and kissing the Gospels and the Cross, in front of Vladyka Anthony(Medvede v), I gave my own personal sworn testimony, as did a number of others. I KNOW OF WHAT I TESTIFY. And, I DO NOT LIE! But I do not hate Herman, I feel profound sorrow for him. He and I were close friends, long ago. He had serious mental and spiritual unbalance. In human affairs, there is a common tendency to...overly glorify the departed, and to brush over or ignore OR DENY their faults, and in some cases to even proclaim them as some sort of 'a saint'. In this case of Herman (Gleb) Podmoshensky), only those who personally closely knew him [ and who suffered from him] and who have been in this Western US ROCOR diocese for many many years, as I have, can possibly know the full truth about him, good and bad, Others, only hear pros or cons, [ gossip] from the mouths of others, and they do not know the full story. He will no doubt be buried at Platina Monastery. May God have mercy upon his soul! We need to avoid false elders, and false prophets, in these terrible End times. (Fr, Herman himself, taught this warning!) Gleb Podmoshensky, was among these false elders. Rd. Daniel]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Rd, Daniel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2014 01:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>О. Герман</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Отец Герман одноклассник Владыки Иосифа (Грябинки РПЦЗ-А) т.е. он наш Джорданвиллец и как обычно против него за это делались обвинения, справедливые и нет. Меня удивляет, что и теперь еще враги не успокоились. В тоже время я вспоминаю делавшиеся врагами Церкви против духовенства и известных верующих РПЦЗ обвинения. Вспоминаю, какие сыпались обвинения на Святого Владыку Иоанна Шанхайского и Сан Францисского и как его притянули даже к суду! А теперь его почитают! Вспомните, какие обвинения были против о. Серафима (Роуза) за его «не православные» высказывания и что он под влиянием «азиатских» не христианских вероисповеданий , А теперь после выпуска о. Германом многочисленных трудов о. Серафима его многие читают и его почитают. Посмотрите на обвинения против Владыки Григория (Граббе) имя которого расшифровывали цифрой 666! Да вспомните даже основателя РПЦЗ - Блаженнейшего Митрополита Антония, когда каждый «богослов» считал себя в праве критиковать Митрополита за его труд об искуплении. Я читал в протоколах РПЦЗ, когда рассматривалось дело о. Германа. Его тогда и обвиняли, и оправдывали, и наконец не нашли как мне известно виновным. Но сам о. Герман не только обиделся, но и рассвирепел, на выдвинутые обвинения. Главное в чем его обвиняли это что у него не «православное учение». Но подробных обвинений не было сделано так же, как и в его личной жизни обвинителей не оказалось. Сначала защита, а затем обвинение были со стороны Владыки Антония Лос Анжелосского, против которого, были также обвинения за Иерусалимские дела. О. Герман часто ездил в Москву и сослужил с духовенством МП. У нас насчет этого было много споров, и я лично не разделял его симпатий к Патриархату, но это не значит что нужно обвинять его, что он грешил в других делах. Обвинения делались и теперь продолжают делаться против тех, кто был за РПЦЗ или неприемлем для МП и властей Кремля. Поэтому к обвинениям нужно относиться осторожно и помнить, что «кто без греха первым кинь камень!» А по русскому обычаю: усопших судит Сам Бог!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Георгий Солдатов</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 23:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: О. Герман Подмошенский</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Да, это так. Но, не в этом вся правда (или неправда) РПЦЗ. Было нечто, более главное, что так влекло о. Серафима (Роуз) к РПЦЗ.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Митрополит Агафангел</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 20:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>О. Герман Подмошенский</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[В январе и затем в апреле этого года мне каждый раз по месяцу удалось пробыть в Финиксе (штат Аризона) где в городе находится сербский монастырь, а на юге находится большой греческий монастырь во Флоренции, где семь церквей две, из которых «русские». Мне удалось встретить монашествующих знавших о. Германа. В разговорах с ними я услышал, что они остались недовольны его увлечениями поездок в «Россию», после которых он очень изменил мнение о МП, поведение и планы миссионерских изданий, а главное тем, что он не подготовил себе замены руководства. В разговорах с о. Германом я передал ему, чем им недовольны в западных штатах. Отец Герман рассказал мне о том, что мне самому было уже давно известно. В РПЦЗ при Синоде не было постоянного «цензора». Поэтому у о.о. Серафима (Роуза), Льва (Пугало) и самого Германа (Подмошенского) были большие затруднения. Они занимались переизданиями различных трудов, переводами и не могли по материальным причинам ожидать месяцами или годами когда будет найден «цензор» и получено благословение на очередное издание. Лично у меня также был печальный опыт. В 1978 году после 3 лет о. Лев издал мой перевод первой книги трудов о. Алексия Товта. На издание следующего тома так и не было получено благословения. Так как это касалось истории Русской Церкви в Америке, то заинтересована, стала Американская Православная Церковь. У меня на руках были многие оригиналы и копии трудов Епископа Нестора (Заккс) Аляскинского. Портреты Владыки для книг предоставил о. Герман. РПЦЗ не интересовалось историей Русской Церкви вне России. Заинтересовалас ь АПЦ, и к двум томам предисловие написал сам Митрополит Феодосий. До самой своей смерти об этом сожалел о. Герман. На непонимание Администрации РПЦЗ к трудам молодых полных сил людей, которые хотели издательскими трудами миссионерствова ть Православие среди соотечественник ов и местного населения жаловались мне уже давно и о. Герман уже перед своей кончиной повторил свою обиду, напомнив мне, что все затруднения, как у него, так и других происходили по недоразумениям с «цензорами» и критиками, не понимавшими, или не желавшими понимать, что верующие читают и чем они интересуются. Вечная память о. Герману и всем другим переводчикам православных богословских трудов, писателям-мисси онерам и да судит и наградит Господь их по заслугам за их труды.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Георгий Солдатов</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2014 17:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>About Fr. Seraphim and Herman-</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[They both were monastic brothers, but Fr. Seraphim put himself under the obedience of Herman. for his humility sake. Yet, both confessed their sins to each other. Fr. Seraphim was the sincere ascetic struggler, a man of a very high intelligence, who knew a number of languages (in the church services, he could slip from Slavonic and back to English, without him even knowing any difference, he saw people and life, from a spiritual view, not a worldly or political one. Fr. Seraphim saw himself as a sinful pilgrim, struggling with the passions of his flesh, JUDGING NO ONE BUT HIMSELF, and he always wanted to end up in the Heavenly New Jerusalem, with Our Lord and His saints. He did not belong in this world. Herman was a man of this world, a self proclaimed, 'missionary'. Fr. Seraphim did not seek or want, the praises of people, but Herman did. Poor Herman, became envious of the real virtues of his monastic brother, and that people respected him. Fr. Seraphim suffered because he knew of at least some of the secret sins of his brother, but....he refused to condemn or judge Herman, and he kept silence, publically. However, there is evidence that Fr. Seraphim planned on leaving Platina monastery and his brother Herman, had he lived into another year, as he had had enough of Herman's unrepentant life, and of Herman constantly making excuses for his sinful ways, etc. When Fr. Seraphim died, and I was at his all night vigil over his coffin, and funeral on the following day, Herman was totally out of his mind with remorse and guilt and weeping and self-accusation , kneeling down many times at night, in front of the coffin and trying to tell Fr. Seraphim, that he was sorry, etc. Fr. Seraphim had been the stronger one, the true monastic, and when he departed, Herman was like a ship with no rudder or captain at the wheel. I can still see Fr. Seraphim's smiling peaceful face in his coffin. MEMORY ETERNAL to a truly ascetic monastic struggler, Fr. Seraphim, and may he indeed be with the Saints in Heaven. I firmly believe, that he is there. Fr. Seraphim never spoke evil against Vladyka Anthony or our ROCOR. But Herman, threatened to "get a gun and shoot Vladyka Anthony" .[ which threat was recorded on a tape-recorder]. Fr. Seraphim never spoke evil against ANYONE! He carefully followed the old monastic rule to: "Be hard on yourself, but easy on others". Herman's unrepentant life, that is what hurt and sickened him. I was a witness to all of this, so I speak the truth. Furthermore, I have hard evidence,[ gathered from different sources] that Fr. Seraphim was not guilty of the sins of his brother, as some foolish people who did not know him, have wrongly imagined. Fr. Seraphim was, an angel the flesh. Rd. Daniel]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Rd. Daniel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>About Vladyka Anthoiny (Medvedev) and Podmoshensky-</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Yes, originally, Vladyka Archbishop John Maksimovich, gave Herman and Seraphim his blessing to form their brotherhood, but then died and went to Heaven. It was Vladyka Anthony who totally supported, blessed in every way possible, and who ordered the Russian flock in San Francisco to help Platina monastery...for many years, with money, with materials, with their labor to build things there, etcv. I myself drove up to Platina much food donations[ donated by Russians in San Francisco]. and even some bells, from San Francisco. Vladyka Anthony ordained both fathers, and anything that they requested of him, HE GAVE them! He was their biggest friend and supporter on earth! BUT, when Herman was called by him to come down to San Francisco, and give his response/defens e to the many testimonies against him, Herman refused, and started to label Vladyka, as 'the Devil'. Even so, Vladyka Anthony gave Herman more than two years, before he had to suspend him, while the Synod in New York ordered him to defrock Herman, much earlier. At the beginning of that whole scandal, Vladyka Anthony TOTALLY...was on Herman's side, and he suspected a KGB plot against his "holy Igumen". Vladyka Anthony said: "How could an Igumen do such terrible things!? IMPOSSIBLE! This must be a KGB plot!". But, Herman would not repent or tell the truth. So, he constantly slandered Vladyka, and proclaimed him as evil, and a servant of Satan, etc. and one who wanted to destroy his monastery, etc. He also taught his brotherhoo d[ mostly converts] and followers that ROCOR was an evil church, because they had persecuted his Vladyka John earlier (all exaggerated LIES!]. These were all total lies of a very in prelest deranged PROUD man, Herman Podmoshensky. May God forgive him! Rd./ Daniel I was a witness of all this, so I know what I speak of.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Rd. Daniel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Link to some history of Gleb-</title>
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			<dc:creator>Rd. Daniel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 18:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>May God Forgive Him!</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[This report is not the full story of his life, nor is it the truth. Herman (Gleb) Pomoshensky, did indeed accomplish many wonderful things. I personally knew him and Fr. Seraphim. But, little by little, Herman gave way to the lusts/passions of the flesh, His pride in being a highly respected, staretz/elder, grew and grew. Many young people looked on him and called him, 'our living saint'. Thus, he harmed many weak souls, because he was not a saint, not at all. And he showed many signs of some long term mental unbalance, from his tortured and chaotic childhood in soviet Latvia. When he was called to give a defense for himself to our Archbishop Anthony (Medvedev), he refused to speak the truth or to repent. He ended up having to be defrocked from ROCOR, and then he lead a bizarre schism, with himself as its head. He joined himself and his brotherhood to the strange cult, 'The Holy Order of Mans', and also under the vagante 'bishop', 'Met. Pangratios Vrionis". Later his own brotherhood rejected his control, and fled for refuge to the Serbian Patriarchate. Regretably, I personally know too much about him, as I have suffered much abuse from him and his followers, because I told the truth to our Vladyka Anthony. I hope that before he died, that he truly repented before God. But for myself, I cannot say or sing, Vechnaya Pamyat for him. He lead many astray and he caused a terrible schism in this western US ROCOR diocese. His memory to me and to the many others he harmed, is a dark unpleasant remembrance. He spent much of his confused life, in severe prelest/pridefu l delusions, thinking of himself as if he were 'a saint'. Boston Abbot Panteleimon (Metropolous) and he, were two of the same type. Rd. Daniel Everiss]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Rd. Daniel</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 17:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Умер лишенный в РПЦЗ священного сана Глеб Подмошенский</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[В книге "Не от мира сего" он как то принижает значение о. Серафима , рисуя его идущим под своим чутким руководством. Также Герман имел какую то странную неприязнь к епархиальному архиерею , архиеп. Антонию . Почему ?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>иеромонах Никандр</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2014 13:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>RE: Умер лишенный в РПЦЗ священного сана Глеб Подмошенский</title>
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			<dc:creator>Интернет Собор</dc:creator>
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